As I’m a
bit tired to translate and post somebody else's thoughts on tyranids, I decided
to write something unique. So, I decided to write a series of articles on
6-edition competitive tyranid builds as I see them… for newbies! Why for
newbies? Cause mature players have a lot of their own brain worms to play with,
while new players have a lot of spare place in their heads, so I have a little
chance to put there a bit of my own experience to help them grow faster and
stronger as a hiveminds:)
I decided
to start with the tyranid archetypes that IMHO are potent and competitive in current
6-th edition. Let’s look at them:
1. Slow but tough
a. Shooty-shooty
b. Stompy
2. Hoppy-Droppy
a. Gribbie-killy
b. Stardy-Killy
3. Slow but Hoppy-Droppy
Let’s take
a quick look at each of the archetypes I wrote:
1. Slow but tough
As it comes
from the name, It’s just a slow army that relies on high toughness to make it’s
way to the victory.
1a.
Shooty-shooty
At the
start of 6-edition I tried to tailor a shooty foot tyranid list, which I call a
shooty-shooty slow but touch nidz. It is based mostly on monstrous Twin-linked
devourers and impaler cannons fire to get rid of enemies. Like this list:
1850
Pts -
Shooty-shooty
Tyranids Army
HQ
Hive Tyrant
- Twin Devourer with Brainleech Worms (x2); Leech Essence; Paroxism; Old
Adversary
2 Tyrant
Guard Brood - Lash Whips
Tyranid
Prime - Devourer; Bonesword; Lash Whip; Toxin Sacs
Elites
2 Hive
Guard Brood
2 Hive
Guard Brood
Troops
Tervigon -
Stinger Salvo; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst; Onslaught
10
Termagant Brood - Devourers
Tervigon
- Stinger Salvo; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst;
Onslaught
10
Termagant Brood - Devourers
Fast Attack
20 Gargoyle
Brood -Fleshborers; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs
Heavy
support
2 Carnifex
Brood -Twin Devourer with Brainleech Worms (x2)
All the
lists here can be scaled from 1000 to 2000 pts with ease, so feel free to ask a
list for the format you like.
1b. Stompy
I sure that
stompy list is highly competitive. The “core” of the Stompy list is 3 Tervigons
and a Swarmlord, who stomp through the board like a steamroller!
Like this:
1850
Pts - Stompy Tyranids Army
HQ
The
Swarmlord
Tyrant
Guard - Lash Whips
Tervigon -
Stinger Salvo; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst; Onslaught
Elites
3 Hive
Guard Brood
The Doom of
Malan'tai in Mycetic Spore
Troops
Tervigon -
Stinger Salvo; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst
Tervigon -
Stinger Salvo; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst
10
Termagant Brood
10
Termagant Brood
Heavy
Support
Trygon
Trygon
3 Biovore
Brood
2. Hoppy-Droppy
It’s
definitely the 6-edition, the time when we can fully realize out drop-nidz
ideas! Hoppy-Droppy is my favourite list, cause it’s fun to play! Of course,
there can be different approaches to building a drop list, but here is my
variants.
2a.
Gribbie-killy
One of my
favorite units in 6-ed is Dakagaunts! For a mere price of 170 points you
receive a spore with 13 gribbies who shoot out 39 S4 + 6 S6 shots a round! It’s
sometimes enough to wreck a transport and kill the filling stuff. Just an
example of a list on this idea:
1850
Pts - Gribbie-killy Tyranids Army
HQ
Hive Tyrant
- Twin Devourer with Brainleech Worms (x2); Wings; Leech Essence;
Paroxism; Hive Commander; Old Adversary
Hive Tyrant - Twin Devourer with Brainleech
Worms (x2); Wings; Leech Essence; Paroxism; Old Adversary
Elites
The Doom of Malan'tai in Mycetic Spore
Troops
Tervigon -
Stinger Salvo; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst
15
Termagant Brood with Devourers in Mycetic Spore
15
Termagant Brood with Devourers in Mycetic Spore
15
Termagant Brood with Devourers in Mycetic Spore
15
Termagant Brood with Devourers in Mycetic Spore
Heavy
support
Mawloc
Feel that?
180 shots with preferred enemy and nowhere to hide from them!
Nevertheless,
we’ll consider the mechanics later. Now, just a glance at lists to get an idea.
2b.
Stardy-Killy
The other
variant is to drop Mosters on head of our opponents! How many melta/plasma
shots do they have? Try to avoid the drop list like this!
1850
Pts -
Stardy-Killy Tyranids Army
HQ
Hive Tyrant
- Twin Devourer with Brainleech Worms (x2); Wings; Leech Essence; Paroxism;
Hive Commander
Hive Tyrant
- Twin Devourer with Brainleech Worms (x2); Wings; Leech Essence; Paroxism; Old
Adversary
Elites
The Doom of
Malan'tai in Mycetic Spore
10 Ymgarl
Genestealer Brood
Troops
Tervigon -
Stinger Salvo; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst; Onslaught
Tervigon -
Stinger Salvo; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst; Onslaught
10
Termagant Brood
10
Termagant Brood
Heavy
support
Trygon
Trygon
3. Slow but Hoppy-Droppy
“Slow but hoppy-droppy” lists utilize both
concepts – the slow “steamroller” with a hoppy-droppy part. Like this:
1850
Pts -
Slow but Hoppy-Droppy Tyranids Army
HQ
The
Swarmlord
Tyrant
Guard - Lash Whips
Hive Tyrant
- Twin Devourer with Brainleech Worms (x2); Wings; Leech Essence; Paroxism; Old
Adversary
Elites
The Doom of
Malan'tai in Mycetic Spore
Troops
Tervigon- Stinger Salvo; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst;
Onslaught
Tervigon - Stinger Salvo; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst
Tervigon -
Stinger Salvo; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst
13
Termagant Brood with Devourers in Mycetic Spore
13
Termagant Brood with Devourers in Mycetic Spore
13
Termagant Brood with Devourers in Mycetic Spore
I
intentionally made lists a bit one-sided, to show the “idea” first, not to
tailor all-comers competitive lists.
What is my
goal in this articles? To explain, why this concepts are competitive in
6-edition first and to tell the newbies, how to start collecting the archetype
they like!
In the next
article I’ll try to analyze the “Slow but touch Shooty-shooty” list composition
and functions of each unit as well as a 1000-point start-up list for those who
want to begin collecting nidz as well as a minimal set of boxes you need to
collect that army.
Ждем-с продолжения. Здесь приведенные листы вызывают массу вопросов, один из главных - не переоцениваешь ли ты олд адверсари? Все-таки, дропать тиранов рядом с гантами - это очень ограничивающая концепция, к тому же - плюс-минус дюйм скаттера, и ОА уже нет. А тирану самому по себе он не нужен.
ReplyDeleteOld Adversary is 25 pts = 2,5 dakkagaunts
DeleteNormal gaunt shooting against T4 cause 0,25 wounds per shot
Gaunt with preferred shooting cause 0.34 wounds per shot
It’s 36% increase in efficiency.
I use 13 dakkagaunts in a pod. 36% is 4.7 gaunts ~ 47 points. So if I get 1 unit of gants in Old Adversary range it have already paid for itself twice.
Круто математиком быть! Меня просто дико пугала всегда 300 очков за тирана стоимость >.<
DeleteI like to use t4 w3 models, for example warriors. What about tactics and archetypes for such army?
ReplyDeleteI wrote "competitive tyranid builds as I see them" in the very beginning. And warriors/raveners/shrikes can be a single choice in the army, not a competetive archetypa, as I see them:) So, sorry, no midzilla in 6th edition yet.
Deletewhat kind of list will better vs marine:
ReplyDelete3 ruin priests in 2+ sv
3x10 grey hunters with bolters+1 flamer+ 1 plasmz
3 wolf guards with term armor shield + power fist
3x6 long fangs 4 missils 1 lascannon
6 wolf guards with combymeltas in droppod
i really don't know what will be good vs this and will not lose to any other lists..
Definitely it must be a Gribbie-killy army. Throw away all those Tervigons, take a pack of genestealers and Aegis, like this:
DeleteFlyrant - Devourers, OA, HC
Flyrant - Devourers, OA
Doom in a Spore
Broodlord (scytals) + 10 genes
Broodlord (scytals) + 10 genes
13 Gants with devourers in Spore
13 Gants with devourers in Spore
13 Gants with devourers in Spore
12 Gants with devourers in Spore
Aegis
Total is about 1849. (I create lists for a 1850 pts ETC format).
So, Place ADL in a circle. Put one objective inside and 2 genestealers units inside in antiblast fashion. Reserve all the other army.
Go to ground if necessary to avoid heavy casualties, counter-charge droppod-assaulters with Blords.
After turn 2, I think, there will remain not much in the SW army:) Have fun!